Chopin: Prelude opus 28 no 20
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 Chopin Prelude No. 20 in C minor: C major or C minor in beat 4 of bar 3?
December 14, 2008, 09:55:20 PM by johnlink
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I found several threads that discussed the issue of the final chord in bar 3 of Prelude No. 20, and it seems that there are plenty of players who do it each way. C major sounds right to me, not only because of the G7, C7 F min which precedes it (following the tonic dominant 7th C7, I hear the F min as the the minor subdominant of C major), but because of the D7 G7 D7,13 which follows. An E natural could be added to the D7,13 and hardly be noticed, and the A natural over the D7,13 further confirms the tonality of C major.
I'm a guitarist, vocalist, and arranger, not a pianist. I have arranged all 24 of Chopin's Preludes for five singers (soprano, alto, tenor, and two baritones), guitar, bass, and drums (plus violin for No. 16). I will soon be releasing a CD of the John Link Project performing my arrangements of the Chopin Preludes. In the meantime you can hear the forthcoming recording of Prelude No. 3 here: http://www.myspace.com/johnlinkproject That page also contains recordings of my arrangements of Preludes 4 and 6, but not the versions that will be on the CD.
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Chopin: Prelude Opus 28 No. 20 C minor
July 19, 2008, 06:17:05 PM by marsippius
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Piano is 1920s vintage Kurtzmann upright.
Recorded with small mic, Windows, and Audacity.exe .
Sheet music is from pianostreet.com and is phrased according to the behest of my first teacher.
In two places is marked // .
The last few measures are retarded significantly. Also, the dynamics increase significantly up to the next to last chord. The final chord is pronounced as a sort of afterthought, ok.
The overall tempo, "steady as she goes", allows 2 beats per quarter note, in order to
be counting slow enough. This makes the dotted 8th - 16th easier.
Enjoy.
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P.S. See below for a second posting of this Chopin Prelude, modified with tempo and volume space; the E natural is played, and the dotted 8th - 16th rhythm pattern is modified to suit. A question arises, so I need more feedback from listeners please. A special thanks to rachfan for his valuable tips. So far, so good.
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Chopin's Prelude in C minor
November 04, 2007, 11:23:27 PM by dorjuanhoop
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I have a question about measure three of Chopin's Prelude in C minor. My book has an editorial comment that Chopin is supposed to have added a flat sign before the last E (G, C, E) in a copy belonging to one of his pupils but that it does not appear in the original. I have mistakenly been playing the E as E flat, and now when I play it E natural, it doesn't sound right and, in fact, sounds better to me as E flat. I've listened to other people play this, and sometimes it seems they're playing E flat instead of E natural. What's the accepted way of playing this? Thanks for your help. It's such a beautiful piece and I want it right.
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Chopin Preludes 4 and 20 (the easy ones!)
October 31, 2006, 12:33:13 AM by steve jones
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Hi,
Made recordings of the two easiest preludes. My piano sounds awful so please try to ignore how bad it sounds!
In particular Id like comments on the interps. I tried to really up the tension and drama with No4 without going over the top. I think I rushed the stretto passage unfortunately, it sounds too quick. But other than that Im pretty happy with it.
No20 I find a difficult one to work with. Other than the tempo and dynamics there is little to play with it seems! If I could improve on this I think its in the voicing. I have trouble bringing out melody lines above chords. You can hear it a bit, but not as well as you should during the p and pp sections.
Again, thoughts would be much appreciated!
Cheers,
SJ
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Chopin Prelude 28/20 question
September 29, 2006, 02:11:33 PM by orlandopiano
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I've been teaching this piece for years now, and I still have not been able to give a definative answer to my students on what the chord in m.3 beat 4 is. Is it C major or C minor? I've seen both in different editions, and I've heard both on different recordings. Is there any way to know for sure?
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Chopin Prelude in Cm, Op. 28/20
August 11, 2006, 11:19:35 AM by kawaigs40
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I've searched this forum before asking this question and only found one post, which didn't discuss it in any detail.
I have several editions of Chopin Op. 28/20. My question is in reference to the top note of the chord on the fourth count of measure 3. Every edition I have (except one, Keith Snell) has an E natural as the top note. The E natural is not written with its own accidental, but is played as a carry over from the E natural contained in the C7 chord on the second count. However, the Snell edition specifically shows an E flat as the top note of of the final chord in measure 4. Can anybody explain? Which note is correct, E natural or E flat? Incidentally, some of these editions have accompanying CDs. The performances on the CDs agree with the accompanying edition. Is this an accepted variation, or have I merely stumbled onto something that everybody else already knows? Please go easy on me. I'm a jazzer.
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Chopin, Prelude, Op. 28, No. 20 in Cm
July 16, 2006, 07:24:20 PM by rachfan
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In measure 3, I play an E natural at the top of the RH chord in the fouth beat. I do know about the score found belonging to one of Chopin's pupils with the flat penciled beside that note, presumably by Chopin. Nevertheless, while the debate goes on, like many others I prefer the E natural.
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